Scraper 3:10 Tue Jan 17
West Ham’s striking failure: 32 signed in seven years and still no solution
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Our kid Jacob Steinberg has penned quite an article. Fuck Eddie B:ing all of that:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/jan/17/west-ham-strikers-david-sullivan-gold-simone-zaza-scott-hogan
Discuss.
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nychammer
12:23 Fri Jan 20
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Between 2008 and 2014 (5 seasons) out top goal scorers are either Carlton cole or Kevin Nolan.
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Dolittle
11:33 Thu Jan 19
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I'm still not fully over Ashton
Club get ambitious, break our transfer record, sign a great young English forward, gets England call up.....
Fuck
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Fifth Column
9:05 Wed Jan 18
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The shitty slow train I'm on going through the Midlands just stopped at the town of Carlton. Who would have thought he had so many fans up here they named a town after him.
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Northern Sold
12:07 Wed Jan 18
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Surprised on the list I shoved up how consistent Bubba Shrimp Marlon was... he done Ok for us didn't he??
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Tomshardware
11:48 Wed Jan 18
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I remember that truly cringeworthy post on the official site about Calleri and how he was going to be a top centre forward.
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diddly
10:20 Wed Jan 18
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One of the only bonuses of being quite old. 85-86 Macca and Cottee. Twas a priviledge
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PwoperNaughtyButNot
9:27 Wed Jan 18
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This striker merry go round is a nonsense. Every club is in the same boat, desperate to sign a striker who scores bucket loads and invariably fails. It would be interesting if the study above was widened on all PL striker signings and you would no doubt see it is a flawed process.
So here is the idea - strikers are overpriced. Strikers invariably fail. Strikers rely on the team to create the chances. Clubs like West Ham do want to make money with transfers.
Why not invest heavily in defence and midfield and chuck your young strikers in from the youth team?
Young players get a chance to shine. If they score some goals then cash in and replace or keep and keep doing it.
Will throwing the kids in generate more than the goal total listed over the years the study is made?
At present it is like they just want to chuck money and keep their fingers crossed. Why not save your money and keep your fingers crossed?
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chedylan 2
8:53 Wed Jan 18
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Should be one saying:
west hams RIGHT BACK failure: 2 signed in 7 years
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percyd
6:53 Wed Jan 18
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Take out the players we still have and then do the maths - for all the frustration we might feel about some of the duds that have passed by at least we haven't been totally skinned financially.
Zaza the only ridiculous fee imo. Maybe Valencia if he is eventually sold cheap.
And as for Mr. Steinberg's "Payet cannot be blamed for deciding that he has had enough, even though there is little to admire about the midfielder downing tools." Little to admire indeed!!!! Fuck all to admire about rank unprofessionalism.
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Alex V
6:07 Tue Jan 17
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As most of the general replies on the guardian recognise, it's really the tale of most premiership sides not just West Ham. Good strikers are very hard to find, and then to keep for any length of time, and many teams struggle to supply them with consistent chances to score. Also the meta in the last decade or so has been strongly leaning towards lone strikers who get even less support and are generally expected to just labour for the team feeding off scraps. There's no magic fix to this.
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Northern Sold
6:07 Tue Jan 17
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Gone a bit Eggy... top goalscorers in league and cup for us since 63.... I reckon we dream of a 20 goal a season now....
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Your mum
5:49 Tue Jan 17
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As bad as this list reads, compare that to most prem sides & then we'll talk.
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Dan M
5:23 Tue Jan 17
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Tomshardware 4:38 Tue Jan 17
Rather annoyingly, no-one.
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grasshopper
5:21 Tue Jan 17
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After reading this, those who defend the owners obviously dont have a clue
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Stranded
5:18 Tue Jan 17
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Good article. And painful reading.
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13 Brentford Rd
5:13 Tue Jan 17
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The position does seem cursed. Look at the relative success stories, Carroll, Sakho, Demba Ba, Tevez and Ashton in modern times.
A combination of bad luck, bad judgement and being too tight.
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Far Cough
4:47 Tue Jan 17
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Payet was at the door
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Grumpster
4:41 Tue Jan 17
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Was Garth at his door mugging him off so that he could post it via his phone first.
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Tomshardware
4:38 Tue Jan 17
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Dan M 3:41 Tue Jan 17
Who was it at the door?
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Orange Hammer
4:37 Tue Jan 17
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Grim reading to say the least. Very depressing when reading about the whole lot in 1 go
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Far Cough
4:11 Tue Jan 17
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We could do with Wally St Pier back at the ground
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